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by paulofilmo
Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: (Yet) another approach to the question of greatest directors
Replies: 36
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Re: (Yet) another approach to the question of greatest directors

D averages, 5 film min.

If i average top 3s of Ds with 5 ranking min, scores over 73 (84%):
Spoiler!
lynne ramsay (1 short)
berg
tark
lynch(inc. twin peaks)
sat ray & linklater
takahata
chaplin
wyler
mike leigh & david lean
wes anderson
malick & Shane Meadows & Soderbergh & Quay Bros
cassavetes
eisenstein & trier & miyazaki
jodo & Kurosawa
would like to get koreeda & carax in there, but am otherwise smitten

(edit - if I did this with ratings from the last ~10 years it would look so different)
by Guest
Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:40 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: (Yet) another approach to the question of greatest directors
Replies: 36
Views: 56185

Re: (Yet) another approach to the question of greatest directors

I took the 24 directors I've seen 5 or more films from (there are 24). I also only took the average of the top 5 because I haven't seen the sheer volume of films other members have:
Christopher Nolan All 7 films- 87.00 Top 5- 91.8
Francis Ford Coppola- 6 films- 86.33 Top 5- 90.20
Peter Jackson- 6 films- 84.67 Top 5- 88.60
Martin Scorsese- 10 films- 80.60 Top 5- 88.40
Darren Aronofsky- 5 films- 88.00
Coen Brothers- 12 films- 71.33 Top 5- 87.40
David Cronenberg- 10 films- 78.45 Top 5- 86.80
Steven Spielberg- 10 films- 75.00 Top 5- 86.20
Sidney Lumet- 6 films- 82.67 Top 5- 85.80
PT Anderson- 5 films- 85.50
Gus Van Sant- 6 films- 79.17 Top 5- 84.6
Quentin Tarantino- 5 films- 81.40
Alfred Hitchcock- 5 films- 80.80
Robert Altman- 7 films- 78.29 Top 5- 80.60
Jonathan Demme- 5 films- 79.00
Ridley Scott- 5 films- 78.20
David Fincher- 5 films- 75.80
Michael Mann- 5 films- 75.40
Terry Gilliam- 5 films- 74.80
Ron Howard- 5 films- 70.40
Tim Burton- 5 films- 62.80
Dennis Dugan- 5 films- 53.00
Joel Schumacher- 5 films- 45.80

Coen Brothers are the biggest jumpers. I consider them both as favorites, but they have a few films that drags their average down a lot.
PT Anderson's spot kind of surprised me, as I consider him one of my favorite directors, but I think this can be attributed to him having only directed 5 films. His average should go up as he makes more movies (although it might not if The Master ends up being similar to Huston's Wise Blood, a film that I hated).
Also standing out is Fincher, who I consider to be a good director , but I couldn't stand the Curious Case of Benjamin Button. I'm sure any number of his films I haven't seen would easily replace that in the top 5.
by PeaceAnarchy
Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:47 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: (Yet) another approach to the question of greatest directors
Replies: 36
Views: 56185

Re: (Yet) another approach to the question of greatest directors

FitFortDanga wrote:The one that stands out is Spielberg.

I thought he'd be the one. He's definitely the one whose ranking is most unfairly improved by this system. The other for me is Godard.
My list is below for those with over 10 ratings I put their whole average at the end. Some like Hitchcock, Woody Allen and Godard had huge jumps, others not so much.

Akira Kurosawa , 92.6 , 18 , 87.17
Expected, a fantastic filmmaker

Alfred Hitchcock , 91.8 , 30 , 81.4
Made some mediocre movies but a lot of great ones, definitely like the improvement.

Sam Peckinpah , 90.63 , 8 ,
Always surprised to realize how much I like his films, but I've loved them all

Ingmar Bergman , 90.4 , 17 , 85.76
Like Kurosawa, expected.

Billy Wilder , 90 , 13 , 88.31
Seems a tad high but I do love his films

Krzysztof Kieslowski , 89.83 , 6 ,
Need to see more, but I love his style

Oliver Stone , 89.8 , 5 ,
No way. This makes me want to see more just to make this go down. A few great films does not a great director make.

Stanley Kramer , 89 , 5 ,
Like Stone, 4 great films and a decent one. I doubt his others will live up to this score.

Terrence Malick , 88.8 , 5 ,
Great director, but this is higher than others I like more.

Fritz Lang , 88.7 , 23 , 83.91
Lang is a great example of someone with a ton of certified masterpieces but also a large amount of merely ok films. Those ok films stand out just as much as the good ones in my judgement of him.

Stanley Kubrick , 88.7 , 14 , 82.29
Not a favourite but a great director and I can't deny I love his films

Eric Rohmer , 88.6 , 24 , 83.88
Hurt by the fact that while I love nearly all his films I don't give him scores that quite reflect how much I like him.

Woody Allen , 88.5 , 3 , 80.23
Films all over the place, someone bound to be helped by cutting off the bad ones. Unlike Lang, though, I have a more positive view of his films as a whole.

Chan-wook Park , 88.2 , 5 ,
Need to see more to decide just how warranted this is

Martin Scorsese , 88.2 , 21 , 81.24
Not wild about the guy, but at his best he's excellent.

Christopher Nolan , 88 , 7 ,
Has yet to disappoint me.

Paul Thomas Anderson , 88 , 5 ,
A favourite.

Spike Jonze , 87.6 , 5 ,
I didn't even realize I'd seen 5 Jonze films. Unwarranted

David Fincher , 87.5 , 8 ,
Seems about right.

Luis Buñuel , 87.3 , 19 , 83
When he's on he's great, and from what I've seen even his lesser work is pretty good.

Satyajit Ray , 87.29 , 7 ,
Need to see more, but feels warranted.

Rainer Werner Fassbinder , 87.17 , 6 ,
Doesn't stand out as a favourite to me, but that could change if I see more.

Marcel Carné , 87 , 7 ,
I think I've seen his best, but until I see the bad ones I have no problem with this.

Jean-Pierre Melville , 87 , 7 ,
Yup, great director.

Masaki Kobayashi , 86.83 , 6 ,
Need to see more to decide how I feel.

Milos Forman , 86.6 , 5 ,
Stone v2. Average raised highly by One flew

Joseph L. Mankiewicz , 86.6 , 5 ,
Like Kramer, I think this is due to seeing his renowned films and nothing else.

Buster Keaton , 86.6 , 31 , 77.74
Keaton's fine. This seems a tad high, but the full average is way too low.

Robert Bresson , 86.5 , 13 , 82.77
Here's where this method works perfectly. I'm willing to forgive his couple of missteps for the great ones.

Jean Renoir , 86.4 , 16 , 81.88
Lacks that great score to pull the average up, but consistently wonderful.

Kar Wai Wong , 86.38 , 8 ,
Films I enjoy more in the moment than retrospectively, but I do love them when I watch them.

Werner Herzog , 86.22 , 9 ,
Need to see more, but seems about right.

William Wyler , 86.1 , 18 , 83.28
Grown fonder of him lately. He's earned his place.

Yasujiro Ozu , 86 , 10 ,
Yes

Steven Spielberg , 86 , 23 , 76.35
No.

Luchino Visconti , 86 , 8 ,
Seems about right from what I've seen.

John Cassavetes , 86 , 6 ,
Another one I need to see more from, but the distincitveness of his films makes this feel accurate.

Joel & Ethan Coen , 86 , 16 , 82.38
About right

Kenji Mizoguchi , 85.71 , 7 ,
Like Ray this feels provisionally right, but I need to see more.

Alain Resnais , 85.7 , 10 ,
Only four of these 10 really stand out, but feels right.

Charles Chaplin , 85.6 , 16 , 79.75
Same as Keaton

Preston Sturges , 85.57 , 7 ,
One of my favourites, seems relatively low.

Douglas Sirk , 85.33 , 6 ,
Need to see more but feels right

Jean-Luc Godard , 85.2 , 18 , 75.11
Ha Ha Ha. Half masterpieces, half crap. Not sure which average is more reflective of my feelings, but I'll lean towards the lower one.

Gus Van Sant , 85.13 , 8 ,
What the hell is this doing here? Even after glancing at his films and their ratings this seems way too high.

François Truffaut , 85 , 9 ,
Yup, I like Truffaut, though like Lang he's got some clunkers and I haven't seen enough here to flush them out.

Hayao Miyazaki , 85 , 9 ,
I like the guy but this feels rather high.

Elia Kazan , 84.9 , 12 , 83.75
Like Wyler, I've come around to him lately. Doesn't feel as much like fluke anymore.

Orson Welles , 84.8 , 11 , 83.45
About right. Not as crazy about Orson as others but he made some beautiful films.

King Vidor , 84.75 , 8 ,
Doesn't feel accurate, though I like some of his films.

Nicholas Ray , 84.71 , 7 ,
Need to see more to be sure. Could rise, could fall.

Otto Preminger , 84.33 , 6 ,
On his way down. He did make a few masterpieces though.

Howard Hawks , 84.2 , 16 , 79.75
MAde a ton of films, the good ones dominate the ratings, but not so much my impressions of him.

Louis Malle , 84.17 , 6 ,
Not sure. I like what I've seen, but lacks a distinctive enough style to be a fair predictor of what I haven't seen.

Michael Powell , 84 , 13 , 81.08
Feels quite low, and I'm not sure why. Especially after cutting off a couple of low ones.

I'm not sure how I feel about this as a reflection of my tastes. On the one hand it does dramatically improve the lot of my favourites who are held back by mediocre shorts or the occasional bomb. On the other hand it does nothing to fix the fact that Oliver Stone, while he's made 4 great films and another pretty good one, is in no way one of my favourite directors and were I to watch any of his remaining 16 films that average would plummet. I think selective viewing habits are a big reason why trying to make lists like this aren't fully reflective of tastes. Also, writing up those little comments I realize that five films does not feel like enough to judge a director for me.

It seems to me that, as unqualified lists, these are more useful in making me realize I should watch more films by some of these directors than a valid quantification of my tastes in directors. In some films I find the directorial influence, like say Rohmer or in a totally different way Hitchcock, so essential to my liking them that they do a lot more to raise my esteem of those directors than all the Wyler films I've watched combined, do.
by avgcrtckr
Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:24 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: (Yet) another approach to the question of greatest directors
Replies: 36
Views: 56185

Re: (Yet) another approach to the question of greatest directors

Here's a list of top 60 directors with at least 5 films in the avgcrtckr's voting list (so far). The first number is the average rating, and the second is the number of films in the list.

Satyajit Ray 83.80 5 Luchino Visconti 75.29 7
Masaki Kobayashi 83.00 6 Louis Malle 75.29 7
Sergio Leone 81.20 5 Jean Renoir 75.25 8
Carl Theodor Dreyer 80.40 5 Emeric Pressburger 74.88 8
Krzysztof Kieslowski 79.67 9 Frank Capra 74.83 6
Akira Kurosawa 79.44 16 Chuck Jones 74.79 19
Andrei Tarkovsky 79.25 8 Orson Welles 74.73 11
Kenji Mizoguchi 78.29 7 Vittorio De Sica 74.67 6
Henri-Georges Clouzot 78.00 5 Fritz Lang 74.60 15
Yasujiro Ozu 77.79 14 Sidney Lumet 74.44 9
F.W. Murnau 77.67 6 Ernst Lubitsch 74.36 11
Ingmar Bergman 77.50 20 Agnès Varda 74.33 6
Jean-Pierre Melville 77.33 6 Michael Powell 74.30 10
Charles Chaplin 77.17 12 Preston Sturges 74.17 6
John Cassavetes 76.63 8 Jan Svankmajer 73.80 10
Max Ophüls 76.60 5 Alain Resnais 73.70 10
Nicholas Ray 76.40 5 Rainer Werner Fassbinder 73.57 14
Emir Kusturica 76.40 5 Sergei M. Eisenstein 73.50 6
Michelangelo Antonioni 76.14 7 Terrence Malick 73.40 5
Wim Wenders 76.00 7 Abbas Kiarostami 73.38 8
Andrzej Wajda 76.00 5 Jean-Luc Godard 73.00 11
David Lean 75.83 6 Samuel Fuller 73.00 7
Buster Keaton 75.77 13 Otto Preminger 73.00 5
Eric Rohmer 75.71 7 Sam Peckinpah 73.00 5
Luis Buñuel 75.63 16 Stanley Kubrick 72.92 12
Roberto Rossellini 75.60 5 Werner Herzog 72.75 20
Robert Bresson 75.50 12 Mike Leigh 72.71 7
Elia Kazan 75.50 6 John Ford 72.70 10
Federico Fellini 75.38 8 Edward F. Cline 72.20 5
Hayao Miyazaki 75.33 9 Chan-wook Park 72.20 5
by Guest
Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:39 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: (Yet) another approach to the question of greatest directors
Replies: 36
Views: 56185

Re: (Yet) another approach to the question of greatest directors

Okay, I used this method with a few modifications to generate my top 100. I'm pretty happy with the results. The top 9 especially are exactly how I would rank them without using any numbers.

Modifications:

* for Stan Brakhage (112 films seen), I averaged the top 30
* for directors with 9 to 11 films seen, I averaged the top 8
* I removed certain directors that I would never consider among my top 100, no matter what the numbers say
* for certain directors, I removed the lowest film from the average when I considered it to be an anomalous stinker in their career
* I included directors with 3 or 4 films seen, but deducted 10% from the average
* minor adjustments to rank directors with the same score
* selective trimming at the bottom of the list

Ingmar Bergman - 95.20
Satyajit Ray - 94.60
Akira Kurosawa - 93.00
Terrence Malick - 91.60
Alfred Hitchcock - 91.10
Ming-liang Tsai - 90.88
Luis Buñuel - 90.30
Werner Herzog - 89.80
Woody Allen - 88.90
François Truffaut - 88.50
Martin Scorsese - 88.40
Kenji Mizoguchi - 88.20
Krzysztof Kieslowski - 87.20
Fritz Lang - 86.90
Pedro Almodóvar - 86.63
Michael Winterbottom - 86.00
Emir Kusturica - 85.50
Peter Greenaway - 85.31
Joel and Ethan Coen - 85.30
Apichatpong Weerasethakul - 85.25
Aki Kaurismäki - 85.20
Masaki Kobayashi - 85.17
Béla Tarr - 85.13
David Lean - 85.12
Stan Brakhage - 84.80
David Lynch - 84.71
Robert Bresson - 84.70
Stanley Kubrick - 84.60
Luc & Jean-Pierre Dardenne - 84.60
Agnès Varda - 84.50
Alain Resnais - 84.25
Steven Soderbergh - 83.90
Orson Welles - 83.81
Anthony Mann - 83.80
Yasujiro Ozu - 83.79
Elia Kazan - 83.50
Hayao Miyazaki - 83.38
John Sturges - 83.20
Quentin Tarantino - 83.10
Roman Polanski - 83.00
James Lee - 82.80
Michelangelo Antonioni - 82.63
Allan King - 82.60
Jules Dassin - 82.40
Ritwik Ghatak - 82.38
Abbas Kiarostami - 82.38
Robert Siodmak - 82.25
Frank Capra - 82.25
Ermanno Olmi - 82.00
F.W. Murnau - 81.71
Anh Hung Tran - 81.67
Kon Ichikawa - 81.60
Buster Keaton - 81.25
Michael Powell - 81.20
Billy Wilder - 81.10
Louis Malle - 80.90
Douglas Sirk - 80.63
Guy Maddin - 80.57
Yimou Zhang - 80.50
Jean Renoir - 80.40
Lars von Trier - 80.38
Federico Fellini - 80.30
Wes Anderson - 80.25
Andrei Tarkovsky - 80.17
Mike Leigh - 80.00
Michael Curtiz - 79.88
Nobuhiko Obayashi - 79.75
Max Ophüls - 79.75
Wen Jiang - 79.65
Milos Forman - 79.52
Josef von Sternberg - 79.51
Jean-Pierre Jeunet - 79.50
Jacques Demy - 79.40
Jacques Tati - 79.33
Francis Ford Coppola - 79.25
Roy Andersson - 79.20
John Huston - 79.10
Mohsen Makhmalbaf - 79.10
Shohei Imamura - 79.00
John Cassavetes - 78.88
Marco Ferreri - 78.88
Howard Hawks - 78.81
William Wyler - 78.80
Nicholas Ray - 78.75
Phil Karlson - 78.57
Kar Wai Wong - 78.50
John Brahm - 78.40
Gus Van Sant - 78.38
Sergio Leone - 78.33
Pen-Ek Ratanaruang - 78.33
Hiroshi Teshigahara - 78.13
Carl Theodor Dreyer - 78.00
Eric Rohmer - 77.90
Anthony Asquith - 77.83
Jean-Pierre Melville - 77.63
Djibril Diop Mambéty - 77.40
Zhang Ke Jia - 77.21
Michael Haneke - 77.13
Carlos Saura - 76.75
Victor Erice - 76.20